Cross Gang Portrait – Point Blank Free School

Photo by John F. Phillips, Toronto, ON, 1968

22 Responses to “Cross Gang Portrait – Point Blank Free School”

  1. james phillips says:

    I am curious if anyone knows anything about what may have happened to the members of this gang. I was a close friend of one of the former members. could someone possibly get back to me on this?

  2. papa says:

    Hey James
    Past member of C.G do you Know me PAPA Several years ago I was at Johns Phillips House
    east of Riverdale park Not sure of the side street ? Anyways I bought 6 photo’s of the Gang members IM NOT IN ANY Back then I didn’t think it was cool to picture taking .Crazy eh.
    Im very sorry to hear of John passing. Take care Allen

  3. luke says:

    hey jim—still looking huh?—same here—still haven’t found any new info yet

  4. james phillips says:

    Allen I was a close friend of Jack He died on Dec 21, 2013. i would like to see the pictures you have. I lived in British Columbia Port Alberni. I come back around Christmas every year. Perhaps something could be arranged for then. Take care. Jim.

  5. james phillips says:

    I was wondering if the person in the picture upper right is Jack.It looks a lot like it could have been him. Top row far right. Take care Jim.

  6. Lora Carrigan says:

    the guy with shirt open & cross on his chest. was Ernie Carrigan from Nova Scotia.
    My father.

  7. Nancy carrigan says:

    ernie carrigan was my husband for 21 years until he passed away in 1990 at the age of 38. I gave my dauhter, Lora my point blank magazine from 1969 and she went online and found this site. This is totally awsome. I felt like I was sixeen again and living on Parliment St again. I believe one of the cross gang members is Pat Dubay who was going out with a girl named Patsy.
    Allen, I would love to see the six photos you bought of the cross gang. One of the other members was called Mike i believe but i don`t remember his last name
    Thanks
    Nancy Carrigan

  8. Sue says:

    Top row, second from the left. Ernie Carrigan, was my brother in law. We lost him far too soon! Passed away many years ago.

  9. Ernie carrigan says:

    I’m the son of one of them in picture

  10. Jim Phillips says:

    It was great to get a response. I would like to see the pictures as well. I live in Port Alberni BC. I come to Toronto in DEcember each year to see my family for Christmas. I would like to meet up with someone who knows a bit about the cross gang and all. Perhaps we can work on something between now and then. Jim.

  11. Billy debaie says:

    My father is pat debaie. Think he was a member of the cross gang if ya have any pic or anything could ya send them to me please .

  12. Pat Debaie says:

    Hi this is pat and patsy debaie ,my son just showed us this sight.we are living in nova scotia 45 years still together love to hear from the gang

    pat and patsy

  13. Tricia DeBaie says:

    My Dad is Pat DeBaie. He’s in the bottom row, on the right. Awesome picture!! If anyone has any other pictures of the gang, please send them to us.

    Thanks
    Tricia

  14. Allen Pohier says:

    Hey Jim
    Are you Johns son or ? I can meet up with you some time and fill you in of some stories of the Cross Gang. Next time your in Toronto
    Papa

  15. Allen Pohier says:

    Any one seen TEA BAG?

  16. Papa says:

    The Picture above I believe from top left on is:
    Guss /Ernie/ Art/ Welden / Lenard / Madge /& Greg

  17. Jim Phillips says:

    Sounds good to me. I will be in Toronto in December to make my annual visit with my family. We can make more definite plans closer to the time. I am really looking forward to it very much. Jim.

  18. Jim Phillips says:

    Hi Allen I will be in the Toronto area from DEc 17 . Maybe we could arrange to get together then so you could tell me a little more about the cross gang. My address is jphillips89@hotmail.com.

  19. Brook says:

    My father is Arthur. One left from the top right corner. Please give me a shout if you there is any more pics!

  20. John Cormier says:

    The fellow, first row middle, is Joseph Magelan. Sang in a garage band called Magelans Voyage. Upper right at the end is John Deas I believe.

    John Cormier
    (Lived at Wellesley and Sackville)

  21. Tammy says:

    Does anybody know a Billy Debaie that lived in Springhill and would now be in his 70’s maybe 80’s? I know he lived on Mechanic St. about 50 years ago. Just wondering if anybody has any information?

  22. John Gruchy says:
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    Pat Debay was a leading member of the Cross Gang, I saw the Surname mentioned,
    we had a lot of Boys from Halifax NS originally, and probably returned there.
    We lived in the same rooming house (our families) at Ontario and Wellesly,which burned
    to the ground in 1968.

  23. John Gruchy says:
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    Mike Wassalyn was the really the leader of the whole group, he was an untouchable,
    like a big brother to me, the hardest toughest hombre in all of old Cabbagetown
    including Regent Park. So was a good Cape Britain Boy, Arthur Wooley, tough as nails,
    the fists to prove it.

  24. John Thomas says:
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    Hello
    I happened to make contact with one of our members,
    Ronnie Lavert, I won’t divulge any of his personal info,
    due to privacy concerns. But I can say, that he is doing
    ultra-well and a big success.
    I remember playing Billiards in his basement when we were
    both about 12 years old.

  25. John Thomas says:
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    I feel like to be, a modern day historian, of our group.
    I almost started to write a Book about the History of our Gang.
    As for my background, I ended up attending a Christian Bible College,
    and meeting my present Wife of 42 years.

  26. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    Pat Dubay was one of the older leaders of the Cross Gang and a good friend.
    I can answer most questions about him up until 1970.
    Gang was disbanding by that time.

  27. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    I think it was great hearing the reply from the reply
    from pat and patsy dubay, it brings back some fond memories as he was
    great friend, as are other member, Lorne Gilbert and “Strimmy” (Glen Moore),
    we all were residents of a Tenement-Apart-style house at the corner of
    Ontario Street and Wellesley in Toronto, about a block away from
    Winchester PS, which was one of the Gangs hangouts. Pat starting taking time
    away from the Gang and more time with his Girl.
    The “Great Fire” of 1968 left many of us homeless and on the street, but
    we were all survivors and made it through, I have a Newspaper transcript (Front Page
    Toronto Star). Pat was a great guy and friend.

  28. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    Magge Garage Band, played a lot of Jimi Hendrix material, a great
    bunch of Musicians, featuring Madge as lead singer, Mike Pryor on Rhythm
    guitar, Dave Dubynski on Lead guitar, Johnny Dees on Bass,
    The drummer was on the tip of my tongue (Gang-non-member).
    You have to give these guys an enormous amount of Musical
    kudos. One of the members of the group even had the Balls to
    use Taxi’s and completely gut the entire musical inventory of The Guess Who
    who were playing the German club on Jarvis street, so guess who decides to
    do his dirty work by removing all the Amps, Drums, etc way back in 1968.
    The group needed an upgrade to their inventory, so this was an example of the Cross Gangs finesse in the Crime world. Although later through police investigation, they were nabbed, the had the opportunity to use the best equipment in Canada from a famous
    Canadian band for over a year.

  29. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    Hello,
    My condolences for Ernie Carnegie and his Family, it is far too young for a man
    with such a large heart and outlooks on life.
    We all considered him to be the leader of the Cross Gang, I am sure Pat Dubay
    must have kept in close contact with him since a large contingent of our Gang
    also returned to Halifax N.S. and Pat I know was a very close friend to Ernie.
    There was also Glen “Strimmy” Moore and Lornie Gilbert and Art Wooley,
    these were the heart & soul of “THE CROSS GANG’, a great bunch of guys and very
    loyal friends, what goes around comes around.,and so many memories remain.

  30. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    My apologies for misspelling Ernie “Carrigan’s” last name wrong,but
    you have to realize that it is over 50 years since I last had contact with him.

  31. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    Good Morning
    Would you be able to send me the pictures that you have on
    “Mike” in related to the Cross Gang Area”
    Thanks, a bunch
    John

  32. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    The younger members of the Gang had our own Musical Group name too. We called
    ourselves were the “Dark Mirage” and we had between 20 to 30 respectable
    songs on our tag. Notwithstanding was my version of “Wipeout”, which was
    my Drum solo that we slotted in at every Gig. We had a young chap named
    “Lornie Gilbert” who was cousin to Glen “Strimmy Moore and Pat Dubay. They all lived
    in the Wellesley Street tenement building that burnt us out to the street, our Flat was
    on the top floor of the building and got the worst of the blast. My little sister, Eleanor
    saved my parents lives from the street smarts of maneuvering down the back roofs
    to get to street level, she was only 10 years old at the time, it was one of Torontos
    worst fires of all time. Anyway our group was headed by Lornie who was a Musical genius,
    and I’m sure he went on to be someone. Claude Levesque played Rhythm guitar,
    Terry Baraclough was the vocalist, I was the Drummer, we were always practicing and
    playing Gigs, trying to stay out of trouble. When we weren’t doing this we were having Gang
    brawls against the “Screaming Skiulls” and the “Spadina Spooks” (Black Gang from the West end.) We were the younger members of the “Cross Gang” and kept a bottle of Indian Ink that we made some nasty Tattoos that I still carry today, Artistry wasn’t one of our Fortees, but we were resourceful and did what we could with what we had. A little introspect
    of history from that time (1967, 1968).

  33. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    The main thing in my life since I left the Gang, was the Discovery of the Judaeo Christian
    Ethic and Jesus Christ, plus my personal Archangels Gabriel and Micheal, My Wife and
    Sons. Thank God for Saving me from a life of Chrime.

  34. Johnny "Ears' Thomas says:
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    For those who knew me, knew me as a bad scum-ball bastard, who didn’t have any
    future.
    When Jesus comes into your life, you become a new Creation and the Lord changes
    you from the inside out. I went to Bible College and met my wonderful American born wife,
    and we were Wed. WE have two wonderful Sons who are both beyond my Comprehension.
    I had a Career with a Major Oil Corporation in the Graphics world and retired.
    I have been educated as a Accounting and Payroll professional, and as a Graphics-Mac
    Designer and also as a Web Design Professional. So the good lord does make changes,
    I almost became a Preacher, Thanks for listening and hearing me. You are all great
    people at heart.
    Thanks
    Johnny “Ears”, by the way I invested funds and my Ears modified to fix my head size,
    the Lord changes things along the Way.